#01, 27 September, 2001
Status of Compensation
Comparability Effort
The events of September 11 have taken
priority on all congressional issues. We've had several discussions with
congressional members and staff during this time period. As you might expect,
there's been an incredible sensitivity on the Hill to any attempt to gain from
our national tragedy. We've respected this, while keeping the congressional
representatives briefed on our efforts in maintaining the NAS and servicing
our customers.
While we're ever hopeful that the FAA
Administrator will change her position regarding our compensation issue, we
aren't depending on that. Our immediate goal is to attach our comparability
language to the aviation legislation that is expected to move to the House
floor soon. Chairman Don Young (R-AK) of the Transportations and
Infrastructure Committee and ranking member James Oberstar (D-MN) are
supporting this legislation. Our feeling is that it is a natural fit for our
issue. We do not have a final decision from Chairman Young or his staff at
this time but we've been concentrating our efforts in this direction for the
past week. I met with Congressman John Olver (D-MA, appropriations) yesterday
and we will meet with Chairman John Mica and staff (R-FL, Chair T&I
Subcommittee on Aviation) tomorrow. We have at least five meetings scheduled
next week to do everything we can to make this happen.
It's been suggested that the numbering
system I've been using for the updates is confusing and hard to research. It
was further suggested that numbers designate the normal update and any special
ones include a letter (e.g. #1, #1a). So, here's the first one since there
won't be time to do it tomorrow.
Wally Pike
#01A, 27 September, 2001 FROM THE SITUATION ROOM
Nationally, Bill Dolan has made a
verbal agreement with the FAA to have a separate PC, connected to the
internet, available to FSS controllers on the Op's Floor. If the only
computers available are the administrative ones, including the one in the
manager's office, then those should be used for this purpose. The reason for
the PC is to have access to the AOPA, FAA and other Web sites, to answer
questions that pilots may have. M1FC will be used for actual and current
NOTAMs.
Also, with all the various sources of aeronautical information available,
there is a concern that pilots have the most current and up to day information
so, the FAA will be giving instructions for pilots to call Flight Service for
the most current and up to date before departing. This should be in writing.
Wally Pike
#01C, 1 October, 2001
House Legislation:
Things are changing rapidly and there are some opportunities. Senators Ernest Hollings (D-SC) and John McCain (R-AZ), Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee, introduced a bill (S.1447) September 24. This bill would require the FAA to take over the screening of air travelers and carry-on baggage and which would make several other changes in security policies. There is a House draft (no number yet) and the legislation is expected to move quickly this week. We are trying to attach our comparability language to either S.1447 or the House draft. We'll let you know if we're successful.
No further word on when the House will consider the aviation legislation that I mentioned last week. When it does come to the House floor it will present an alternative if we're unable to get our language on the security bill.
The Situation Room has been downsized and NAATS Chief Negotiator Bill Dolan has returned home. He will monitor the situation from there and is available via phone.
On Thursday AT-1 Bill Peacock and I will have our delayed business meeting. My agenda includes a discussion about meaningful recognition for you in light of your significant efforts since September 11.
Wally Pike
#02, 5 October, 2001
Everything we heard this week indicated that all the big congressional players (Young, Stevens, Oberstar, Mica, Bird, etc.) were sympathetic to our comparability issue but were unwilling to introduce legislation. Their reasoning is that they are on record in '96 as supporting FAA personnel reform that specifically grants the agency the latitude to pay employees differently. They are reluctant to now legislate mandatory compensation issues.
As I say that was what we were hearing in our meetings. Events changed Wednesday evening when I talked with Chairman Young at his fundraiser. He told me that Congress was working on a resolution to recognize our efforts since September 11. I told him that we appreciated his effort but I reminded him that we still have the pay impasse. He replied that he hadn't forgotten and then he said, "We are working on some language to put on a bill to try to correct that." He turned to our lobbyist and asked her to talk with his staff and work the issue.
If the above turns out to be accurate then this represents a welcome change in Chairman Young's position. Previously he had told me that he favored sending a letter to Administrator Garvey asking her to resolve our impasse. While we appreciate any action he takes for us, our clear preference is that he introduces legislation. It is possible to get other congressional representatives to introduce the language but without the Chairman's support it is highly unlikely that we would be successful is getting the legislation passed into law. As of this time we do not know exactly what bill or language Chairman Young is referring to. Our lobbyist is working the issue and as soon as I hear anything I will let you know. In the interim we are continuing to meet with several other congressional representatives and their staffs to generate support.
I met with AT-1 Bill Peacock yesterday and asked that he consider meaningful recognition for our bargaining unit members and their efforts since September 11. I asked that it not be letters of appreciation but something more substantive such as time off awards. He replied that Air Traffic was considering something for all 24,000 employees. I told Bill that our workforce was already feeling under appreciated and undervalued and that something specific to them was necessary. He was very receptive and said he would research the matter and get back to me.
Wally Pike
The following is an update from OASIS National Representative Jeff Barnes
The OASIS program keeps moving forward in the aftermath of 09/11.
The AND site survey has been rescheduled and will be happening soon. The
installation of new hardware and software at SEA was moved back two weeks to allow some bug fixing and more reliable scheduling and will now take place
in two weeks.
The next Human Factors Team meeting is scheduled for the end of October in
AND but a conflict with a Clemson home game may force a change of location, but maybe not.
Because of the attention Flight Service and the FAA has received lately it
looks like the OASIS budget for 2002 may be increased by 4 million dollars. If this happens, and it seems likely right now, it will enable earlier
equipment deployment so that the installation schedule can loosen up a bit.
This doesn't mean that there will be any change in when stations go
operational on OASIS, it'll just mean wiggle room for Harris and their subcontractors that are responsible for the actual equipment installation.
Could also mean some earlier fixes maybe...this is less likely though as the Harris personnel have pretty full plates right now and there's no gain in
trying to bring new programmers up to speed to contribute meaningfully.
I am back in BNA for a break at home for October. I have been the NAATS rep
to OASIS now for 2 years and it is very gratifying to look back to my beginning with the program where the system was thoroughly unusable, and to
remember the efforts of everyone involved from the union to drastically reshape OASIS into a system that is not only usable, but a system that
controllers look forward to getting. We aren't there yet, but the OASIS system is continually changing and each upgrade has been a useful upgrade
with easily identifiable benefits to the controllers. I wish everyone could get some time on this system so they can form their own opinion and
disregard mine. I'm not sure how to make that happen for everyone, but beginning in October the Human Factors Team will begin meeting at a
different station each meeting to let the controllers there see OASIS themselves using the Team's laptop configured to be a remote workstation.
The October meeting is scheduled for AND, but as stated above events could
force a move to BNA. In November we will be meeting in RNO with sites after that yet to be determined. Occasionally events will dictate meetings in SEA,
ACY, or Harris, but we will only meet in those places when absolutely necessary from here out. I am also
trying to brainstorm other ideas for getting the OASIS out there for more controllers to see.
We can also demonstrate OASIS at events. If you know of an event where OASIS
would be good to display let your Director know and he or she will pass the info to me. If we can show bang for the buck a remote workstation can be
sent along with Human Factors Team members to demo it. OASIS cannot be used operationally at any event unless the
controllers using it are certified on it and the OASIS has been installed at the AFSS in whose area the event is
taking place (at this time only the SEA flight plan area).
#02A, 5 October, 2001
NAATS ATP Liaison Report
In extensive conversations with Headquarters and Regional Agency personnel,
several items have caused me some concern regarding ATCSCC ADVZY 005 and 007,
pertaining to the Washington and New York Area Departure Procedures,
respectively. It has been decided that the ADVZYs will not be reissued, even
though they contain, in my opinion, confusing references to airspace no longer
considered 'restricted' in full scope. I've listed those areas within the
published ADVZYs that I believe need some clarification:
� Under 'DEPARTURE PROFILES:'
*ALL AIRCRAFT WILL PROCEED ON COURSE, AWAY FROM THE 25 NAUTICAL MILE (NM)
RESTRICTED AREA, WHEN THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE 25 NM RESTRICTED AREA
This published statement does not cover all aircraft. A legitimate flight
request, based upon the requirements now defined in FDC 1/0989, could also be an
IFR aircraft that only wants to fly out of the 18nm restricted area, into an
airport now available between 18.1 and 25nm. This is not the only exemption to
this paragraph.
� Under 'SECURITY:'
ALL AIRCRAFT ARE RESTRICTED TO DEPARTURE FLIGHT OUT OF THE 25NM VEIL.
This statement, as published, appears to be very definitive. However, this
also does not always apply, as stated in the example above.
In addition, FDC 1/0989 contains some language that needs to be clarified.
Items 1) through 5) speak to the restrictions pertaining to those aircraft
authorized to fly between 18 and 25nm. Item 4) might imply that all aircraft
require clearance and release times. In actuality, those VFR flight training
operations (by definition) conducting flight between 18 and 25nm at a
non-towered airport could depart on their own with an announcement on the
published advisory frequency, without a flight plan, squawking the VFR code of
1200.
*It is important to note that I am not directing a specific course of action
on these procedures, but am only expressing my personal views on the issued
language. If there is a shared confusion by any of you, seek clarification with
your supervisor.
In summary, I have been led to believe that those involved from Air Traffic
are going to do the 'right thing' and accommodate those with requests similar to
the examples above. After all, the procedure is being carried out to give some
relief to those that have been unable to do anything with their aircraft since
the tragedy of September 11th. Unfortunately, all too often we in Flight Service
are given direction so strict and specific, of which we do our proper jobs in
dissemination, only to have those in the control facilities working out
case-by-case 'special deals' to assist, placing us in the negative light. It
would be in the best interest of our AFSS controllers to seek clarification as
these pilot situations arise, so that we as Flight Service can initiate some of
the accommodations made.
Scott A. Malon
NAATS / ATP Liaison
#03, 12
October, 2001
Comparability Update
We've had several more meetings on the
Hill this week but, unfortunately, we don't have much to show for it. We still
do not have any language attached to any bill. Our lobbyist was out of town a
number of days this week and I wasn't able to talk with her until today. She
hasn't been able to convince Young to commit to introduce our language. We met
with Senator Inhofe's (R-OK) staff today but it was the same story, "where is
Chairman Young on this?"
I did talk with Chairman Young's staffer
and he advised me that the Chairman fully understands and supports our issue but
he wants the airport security bill to go through clean (without attachments or
riders). He went on to say that, if other congressional members started
attaching riders, it might represent an opportunity for us to address our issue.
He wasn't sure what other opportunities there might be for inclusion of the
language beyond this bill. I'm working with the Don Young's scheduling staffer
and I will meet with the Chairman sometime during the next two weeks. At that
meeting I will do everything I can to find out where we stand.
There is a dynamic at play that you
should be aware of. It goes likes this:
Our members contact their congressional representatives and carefully explain
our impasse with the FAA. The congressional representatives, or their staffers,
then pledge their support to correct this inequity. When we meet with them to
discuss the corrective language, however, they invariably respond with one of
the below.
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The bottom line is that a number of our
congressional representatives, or their staffers, tell you (their constituent)
one thing but us another when we follow-up.
There has been a concern voiced that we
are explaining and detailing too much in these membership updates. The argument
goes that, perhaps the membership doesn't need to know all the workings and
maneuverings to such a level of detail and that maybe an overview is more
appropriate.
My response is that we made an informed
decision some time back that we would tell the membership everything. If we're
providing more information than necessary we can summarize more. I would
appreciate any comments you have on this matter. I'm sure the Board will discuss
this at our meeting next week.
Wally Pike
#04, October 19, 2001
As you may already know, the US House
of Representatives has adjourned until at least next Tuesday due to the
anthrax scare. The Senate is continuing to operate with key personnel only. My
meeting with Don Young is still scheduled for next Wednesday. I also have
meetings scheduled with Rockefeller (Science & Transportation), Olver
(Appropriations), Hinchey (Appropriations), Lampson (Transportation &
Infrastructure) and Landrieu (Appropriations). Young remains the pivotal
figure; our lobbyist has met with him twice in the past week but no decision
yet.
The Board of Directors met this week and reaffirmed our policy of providing as
much information as possible to the membership. Minutes of that meeting will
be published as soon as the coordination necessary to approve them takes
place; this should take about a week. Meanwhile NAATS Webmaster John Dibble
has posted his thoughts about the meeting on our WebPage.
I want to take this opportunity to thank the members of the NAATS Board of
Directors for their hard work and dedication this week. There were many
significant and difficult issues that had to be decided; they handled
themselves professionally and with the membership�s best interests at heart.
If this meeting is any indication of the future, I feel our membership will be
well served for the next three years. I look forward to working with them.
I�ve been trying to schedule a meeting with Administrator Garvey to discuss
the pay impasse. Apparently she�s not taking meetings until the later part of
November. I�m on her calendar for November 30.
Several of you know or have talked to NAATS Office Manager Gretna De Stefano.
She had initial surgery today and will have the final next Thursday. Gretna is
doing well and plans to return to work next Monday. We all wish her well and a
full and speedy recovery.
Wally Pike
#04A, 24, October 2001
All the House office buildings remain closed so
I met with Chairman Young at the home of a personal friend of his. I reminded
the Chairman of his statements to me during his fundraiser and told him I was
trying to update where we are at this time with our pay issue.
He replied that he is working with our lobbyist on language to address our
comparability issue but that he has to respect the Administration�s wishes to
keep the Airport Security Bill clean. The Chairman went on to say that there
would be an opportunity to correct our problem and that he�s going to do it
with corrective language attached to a bill or with report language. He said
that he preferred to put the language on a bill but he would have to see how
the joint conferences were conducted.
Chairman Young said that he wants our membership to know that we have his
commitment to resolve this problem and that he sees it as a fairness issue. He
asked that we not give up on him and that we give him a little more time. It
was an excellent meeting; very cordial and informative. I felt the results
were all that we could reasonably have expected.
This commitment comes from the Chairman of the Transportation and
Infrastructure Committee, the person who is in the ideal position to make
things happen. In light of the above we�re asking that our membership now
�stand down�. Your response to our previous requests to contact your
congressional representatives has been all that anyone could ask. Now we need
to temporarily stop our other congressional activity on comparability and let
the Chairman work our issue in his own way. I�ll continue the coordination
with Chairman Young, his staff and our lobbyist.
We�ll keep you posted as more details become available.
Wally Pike
#05, 26, October 2001
I�ve coordinated my Chairman
Young meeting with our lobbyist. She met with him last Thursday and she
confirms that he was extremely positive in that meeting also. We both feel
that the best course now is to let him proceed at his own speed and in his own
manner. Even though everything sounds good, there will probably be some bumps
along the way but the only important thing is the final result.
As I mentioned in my update yesterday, we�re asking that the membership
temporarily pause in your congressional efforts on pay comparability. We do
feel, however, it would be very appropriate for the membership to thank
Chairman Young for his commitment to resolve our pay disparity with the FAA.
It would be particularly meaningful to him if his constituents, our Alaskan
members, contacted him and expressed their appreciation.
I plan to continue the meetings with other congressional representatives and
staff. The goal of these meetings now is just to ensure they know who we are
and what we do. I�ll explain our issue(s) but avoid any coordination problems
with Chairman Young and his staff.
Shortly before the BOD meeting last week, I received a letter from the FAA
Office of Human Resource Management (AHR) responding to my August meeting with
Administrator Garvey on our pay impasse. The letter repeated several of the
misleading and inaccurate statements we�ve seen in many of the FAA responses
to our congressional letters. What was particularly disappointing about this
letter, however, was that someone who knows better � the management Chief
Negotiator - signed it. You can find both his letter and my response on our
web page.
I�ve also sent the minutes of our BOD Business meeting to NAATS Webmaster John
Dibble for posting on our web page. Feel free to contact your Regional
Director or me for more details.
Wally Pike
The following is an OASIS update from NAATS National OASIS Representative
Jeff Barnes.
10/19/01 - I have just returned from Las Vegas where I briefed the new board
of directors on the current status of OASIS. I was impressed by the
professionalism with which the board did its job in the meeting. My first
impression is a good one. I want to thank them for the recognition they have
given to the Human Factors Team for what it has accomplished in the OASIS
program. I am sure the Team will continue to deserve it into the future.
We are working to figure out how testing will work and who will be involved.
The board has selected Richard Anderson PIE, Steve Jones MIA, Tal Haley AOO,
Ron Gray BGR, and Major Miller SJU to participate in the testing for the AND
In Service Decision. This will involve testing at the Tech Center and at AND.
AND has selected four specialists from there to participate also. I will have
their names for you in a future update.
Next week SEA gets the latest software upgrade and the hardware upgrade I have
talked about here before. I am looking forward to hearing their thoughts on it
after it's in place.
I am committed to ensuring that we have an OASIS demo available whenever and
wherever our rescheduled national meeting takes place. I am also working
toward getting a demo for our new board.
#5A, October 31, 2001
I talked with AT-2
Jeff Griffith yesterday afternoon regarding FDC NOTAM 1/1763. DOT, NSA and the
FAA were very busy trying to decide the best way to comply with Attorney
General John Ashcroft�s announcement of a possible terrorist attach within the
week. Some of the discussion involved the possibility of limiting all Part 91
flight but this was determined unnecessary.
Mr. Griffith was very
apologetic about the failure to coordinate this matter with NAATS and to
provide our facilities with advance notice. Of course the problem was worsened
by the fact that AOPA had the information on their website before our
facilities and controllers were briefed.
We agreed that a procedure was necessary to eliminate this problem in the
future. We decided that the best procedure would be for Air Traffic to
coordinate these matters with NAATS Chief Negotiator Bill Dolan as was done
when the situation room was in operation.
Please contact Bill at
or 301-346-6592 with any questions
or comments.
Wally Pike
#6,
November 2, 2001
If you happened to be watching CSPAN yesterday
afternoon you may have seen the House debate regarding H.R. 3150, Aviation
Security. Of particular note is the wording in Section 123 in Chairman Don
Young�s amendment: �It is the sense of Congress that the Administrator of the
Federal Aviation Administration should continue negotiating in good faith with
flight service station employees of the Administration with a goal of reaching
an agreement on a contract as soon as possible.�
I was contacted by our lobbyist yesterday morning and advised that the
Chairman had placed the above language in his amendment. She told me that we
should appreciate the Chairman�s effort on our behalf since John Mica (R-FL)
and Secretary Mineta had both been adamantly opposed to any language at all.
She further stated that at least we now have potential statutory language on
our pay impasse. My reaction was disappointment in that the words don�t
accomplish our goal. We all know how the FAA had negotiated or rather refused
to negotiate in good faith and I communicated this to her. She advised that
the Chairman would be furious if the FAA didn�t initiate good faith
negotiations immediately. She further stated that in that event, Young would
do specific legislation. I again reiterated that some wording needed to be
added to make the FAA comply. Our lobbyist replied that she would try to �beef
up� the language but she was concerned about offending Chairman Young. She
also mentioned that, if Young�s amendment passed the House, there would be a
joint conference and there might be an opportunity to reword the language.
There is also the possibility of losing the language altogether in the
conference in which case the Chairman would look to another bill for the
language.
NAATS Alaskan Regional Director Alan Baker is an acquaintance of Don Young and
he has volunteered to accompany me and meet with the Chairman. As soon as Alan
can schedule the meeting we�ll express to Chairman Young our appreciation for
his interest but our concern about any good faith on the FAA�s part. In the
interim please feel free to contact your congressional representatives with
similar comments.
I�m also attempting to schedule a meeting with Secretary Mineta and I still
have the November 30 meeting with Administrator Garvey. I�ll keep you advised.
Wally Pike
The following is an OASIS Update by NAATS National Representative Jeff Barnes.
The OASIS Human Factors Team is meeting at AND AFSS this week. We are
conducting normal team business, but this is the first of our meetings to be
held in an AFSS other than SEA. From here forward we will schedule our
meetings whenever possible in a different AFSS. This will enable controllers
to see us and interact with us. We will be able to give OASIS demonstrations
to the people in the facility while we are there and will be available to
answer questions about OASIS. Further, our meetings are open, so if anyone
wants to sit in on a meeting they would be welcome to. Our next meeting will
be held the week after Thanksgiving at RNO AFSS.
Many facilities have a lot of energy around the supervisor's console. A
workgroup is being formed to recommend a new design for the console. The
workgroup will produce a recommendation which will be given to the Human
Factors Team for a final decision. I expect that the Human Factors Team would
adopt the proposed solution unless it finds a compelling reason not to. NAATS
will have a representative on the workgroup.
Plans are being solidified for having a team of controllers and a supervisor
from Alaska come to SEA AFSS and take OASIS training so they can conduct an
assessment of the suitability of OASIS for operations in Alaska. As with
having ICAO experts assess the system we want feedback from Alaskan personnel
that will help us make the system better for Alaskan operations. This
assessment will take place in December.
For our FSDPS members...there is a plan that exists for what will happen in
the FSDPS's that I'm sure you are all familiar with. The problem is that I've
heard at least three different interpretations as to how that plan will work.
I have no familiarity with the plan, and I'm sure Kevin Kelley and Don
McLennan are working the issue. There is more attention being turned toward it
as the production deployment of OASIS gets closer, but it seems that everyone
has their own understanding of what the plan says.
The following is from NAATS Chief Negotiator Bill Dolan:
All Directors,
Please forward this info to all FacReps. The Pete Quinn message is a little
confusing and I don't know if the NOTAM D TFR instructions have made it to the
field facilities. This should be cleared up tomorrow. The important part of
this message is the Mike Cirillo message. I will be o leave tomorrow morning
but try my cell phone if you need to talk to me otherwise contact Scott Malon.
He has been working this issue with me.
Bill Dolan
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Subject: Fwd:NOTAM D and TFR
Author: Michael A Cirillo
Date: 11/1/2001 5:13 PM
Bill, Per our conversation, due to the current situation described in the
message below concerning the cumbersome procedures and technological
limitations involved with retrieving information on Temporary Flight
Restrictions (TFR) around nuclear power plants, each BUE shall be granted
immunity for all operational errors or operational deviations related to
failure to provide information to pilots concerning the status of these TFR's
in the enroute phase of the pilot's flight. This agreement will be in place
until a solution is implemented that resolves the limitations.
Mike Cirillo, ATP-1
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Subject: NOTAM D and TFR
Author: Peter Quinn
Date: 11/1/01 4:11 PM
All Managers,
There has been a plethora of dialogue today regarding the issuance of NOTAM Ds
for those locations effected by the multitude of TFRs flooding the Model 1
Full Capacity (M1FC) system in the Automated Flight Service Stations (AFSS). A
last minute decision by ATP-1 this evening has endorsed the issuing of NOTAM
Ds for those above effected locations. This is contrary to what we have stated
during the course of the day and up to a few minutes ago. This will not solve
the problem but may provide some relief for our AFSS specialists in their
ability to retrieve NOTAM information by single location versus having to read
through 50 some odd pages to get the same information.
Specialists need to be reminded that even though a NOTAM D exists, that unless
that location is either the departure point, destination or alternate, the
information will not automatically show up in a route briefing. This is due to
the NOTAM filter which is programmed into the M1FC. Without the filter all
NOTAMs would be displayed for every location along a projected route of flight
causing more data for the specialists to peruse. Specialists shall use
request/reply procedures to retrieve TFR NOTAM Ds.
We understand the necessity of the Aviation Weather Processor (AWP) sites to
become more vigilant in monitoring the 409 capacity buffer for all states and
issue a circuit notice (CIRNOT) when those buffers begin to exceed the limits.
Specialists will be instructed through the CIRNOT to use the M1FC
request/reply procedures to get the NOTAM information. These are the
procedures that were enacted when the Texas buffer was exceeded.
More information will be forthcoming. Questions should be directed to Gary
Bobik, ATP-320.4, at extension 202-267-9754, or me. Thanks for your patience.
Pete
Manager, ATP-320
202-267-3234
#7, November
9th, 2001
NAATS AK Regional
Director Alan Baker and I will meet with Chairman Don Young next Thursday to
discuss modification of his language in the Aviation Security Bill. We�ll
express our gratitude for his interest in our issue but also our opinion that
the FAA will not negotiate in good faith and that they require more specific
language.
Meanwhile I�m continuing to meet with other
congressional representatives to generate support for stronger language. Last
night I met with Senator Mary Landrieu (LA, appropriations) and she expressed
her support and offered the services of her staff to coordinate with Senator
John Breaux (LA) who is involved in the joint conference to finalize the
Aviation Security Bill wording. We�re working this so that we will have a
Senate sponsor to go along with Chairman Young in the House. We�re also
working closely with Congressman LoBiondo�s staff who is providing support to
the joint conference.
On Tuesday I attended the ATCA Awards Ceremony
where AT-1 Bill Peacock received an award for Air Traffic services since
September 11. He had asked that both NAATS and NATCA receive the award with
him and I was happy to agree. My opinion is that Air Traffic has never been
our problem in the pay negotiations impasse. Clearly that distinction goes to
other FAA managers who have thus far refused to take responsibility for
devaluing our air traffic controllers.
My meeting with Administrator Garvey is still
on for November 30. My request to meet with Secretary Mineta has been referred
back to Administrator Garvey.
AT-2 Jeff Griffith and I have talked about the
need to do something immediately on the problems with the NOTAMS and TFRs. We
agreed that a short term fix would be to have some NAATS bargaining unit
members staff a �help desk� or �pod� to field and resolve questions and
problems with the NOTAMs and TFRs. NAATS Chief Negotiator Bill Dolan and NAATS
ATP Liaison Scott Malon have been working out some of the details this week
and this is what it looks like so far.
The �Help desk� will be titled Flight Service
Operational Support Center (FSOSC)
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NAATS will name 5-7 bargaining unit members
for TDY to FSOSC
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NAATS will determine the length of the
individual bargaining unit details to FSOSC
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The FSOSC location will be the ATCSCC in
Herndon, VA
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The FSOSC will probably be operational for
at least six months
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FSOSC personnel will be instrumental in
determining a long-term fix for the NOTAM and TFR problems.
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The FSOSC is responsible to take calls from
the field and work answers/solutions to NOTAMs/TFRs
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FSOSC needs to begin operations immediately
The NAATS Board of Directors will make the
final decisions. My guess is that the details will probably be 30 days in
length.
Contact your Regional Director or NAATS HQ ASAP
if you are interested in serving in this capacity as selections are imminent.
NAATS Office Manager Gretna De Stefano
underwent surgery last Monday. I�m happy to report that the surgery was
successful and that Gretna is recovering at home. She will be out at least two
weeks.
Wally Pike
ATP Liaison Scott Malon
has provided more information on FSOSC below.
Briefing For ATP-300
Subject; Flight Service Operational Support
Center (FSOSC) Proposal
Background; With the events of September 11th
prompting the issuance of numerous NOTAMs and TFRs, the need for Flight
Service expertise in the interpretation and dissemination of that information
to the aviation community is paramount. Flight Service Controllers are the
first line of communication for the business and general aviation communities
There has literally been no Flight Service presence in the development or
rationale behind the decisions governing the TFR NOTAMS making it extremely
difficult to provide answers to inquiring aviators. Also, the fact that this
information was prematurely posted on various non FAA websites has cast a
shadow of doubt on the credibility of the FAA to provide NOTAM and TFR
information in a timely and efficient manner. A work group was convened to
determine the feasibility of establishing a FSOSC at the David J Hurley Air
Traffic Control System Command Center.
Description Narrative A majority of the work
group participants agreed to the concept of a pod (with some comments).
Establishment of the FSOSC does not change or diminish the roles and
responsibilities of the U.S. NOTAM Office (USNOF). The following describes the
basic roles of the FSOSC
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Would provide answers and clarification of
TFR/FDC NOTAM information to the field facilities.
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Would forward issues that could not be
answered to the appropriate office(s) for resolution.
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Would monitor the open line from the FAA
Situation Room and respond to calls directed to the dedicated line.
The FSOSC would interact with the designated
Air Traffic Airspace (ATA) Representative to the extent that they would be
privy to the rationale behind the issuance of TFR/FDC NOTAMS prior to their
release to the field. The FSOSC would receive copies of the drafts through
e-mail/fax simultaneous with USNOF. This would increase the FSOSC�s ability to
answer questions promptly.
A Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) will need
to be developed governing the day to day responsibilities and duties of the
FSOSC personnel.
Recognize that union concerns need to be
address regarding development and implementation of the FSOSC.
Other Issue
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There is a need to develop better two-way
communications between ATA and the USNOF to ensure that the TFR information
released to the public is accurate and complete.
#7a. November
9th, 2001
The
following are the joint conference conferees on Aviation Security.
House Conferees:
- Don Young (AK)
- Tom Petri (WI)
- John Duncan (TN)
- John Mica (FL)
- Vern Ehlers (MI)
- Jim Oberstar (MN)
- William Lipinski (IL)
- Peter DeFazio (OR)
Senate Conferees
- Hollings (SC)
- Inouye (HI)
- Rockefeller (WV)
- Kerry (MA)
- Breaux (LA)
- Dorgan (ND)
- Wyden (OR)
- McCain (AZ)
- Stevens (AK)
- Burns (MT)
- Lott (MS)
- Hutchinson (AR)
- Snowe (ME)
#8. November
15th, 2001
NAATS Alaskan Regional
Director Alan Baker and I went to Chairman Don Young�s office at 1:30 this
afternoon as scheduled but he was in conference on the Aviation Security Bill.
His special assistant, a man I have talked with a number of times, met with us
and we expressed our appreciation for the Chairman�s words but also our concern.
We asked him to consider modifying the words to add strength. The changes we
agreed on were to:
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Substitute �Flight Service Air Traffic
Controllers� for �flight service station employees� and, to:
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Add the words �that accomplishes comparability
with the other FAA air traffic controllers� to the last sentence.
He said he would take them to the Chairman.
I later met with Senator John Breaux�s staffer.
He advised that a deal had just been struck on H.R. 3150 but wasn�t aware of the
details. I left our material with him and our contact information. I�ll
follow-up on both of these meetings.
Concerning the FSOSC � it now looks like the
details will be 60 days in length. Please advise us if you want to withdraw your
name because of the change. I talked with AT-2 Jeff Griffith and he agreed to
support us, with overtime if necessary, to get the people we really want on
these details.
Wally Pike
#9. November
16th, 2001
At this time the conference
report language for the Aviation Security Bill is not available so we don�t know
what, if any, of our language is contained. Congress is expected to move rapidly
today to approve the bill and send it to President Bush. After today Congress
will recess until November 27.
My feeling is that, given the timing of events
yesterday, it is very unlikely that our modified language is in the bill.
Congressman Lipinski (D-IL) has been quoted as saying that the conference
version is very similar to the Senate�s original bill so it�s probably doubtful
that any of FSS language is contained.
I don�t see this as being all bad for us. I�m
coordinating a meeting the week of November 26 with Chairman Young when he
returns to DC. If the FSS language didn�t survive the conference then I can
thank him for his efforts and begin working with him to place it on another
bill. There is still the economic stimulus package as well as some
appropriations bills. Even more importantly, this would also give me a chance to
get him to agree to modify language to further improve our position. Regardless,
I plan to continue to work the issue.
Please note that we
are discontinuing the [email protected] account shortly. If you want to email me
please use.
Wally Pike
The following is the ATP
Liaison Report from Scott Malon.
NAATS ATP Liaison Report November 16th, 2001
Part I:
For those of us with any operational experience,
the need to technologically upgrade our AFSS/FSSs is nothing new. However, since
September 11th, it has become painfully clear to all involved that the current
method and manner in which we, as AFSS Controllers, disseminate NOTAM
information to the pilot is not only outdated, but a clear and critical safety
issue. The collective effort of our workforce to mitigate this serious impact to
our customer through �workarounds� and the like has not gone unnoticed, in that
due attention is finally being paid towards an acceptable solution.
On Friday, November 2nd, ATP-1 Mike Cirillo
called a meeting with ARU (Systems Development)/ ARQ (Research and
Requirements)/ NAATS/ etc to express the fact that the AFSS Controller�s ability
to perform his/her duties has been compromised by technology, creating a
significant safety issue, and that it was the position of ATP that something
needed to be done to FIX THE PROBLEM. Commitment was given by all to meet and
develop a plan.
On Monday, November 5th, the involved parties
re-convened to �brainstorm� solutions. The �exit plan� produced the following
items for consideration:
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M1FC 55-page display limitations
An informational display system at each operational position to display all
site and route-specific NOTAM data during a briefing.
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AWP 409-state limit issue
A direct feed to/from CNS (Central NOTAM System), eliminating the need for AWP
with regard to NOTAM processing.
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WMSCR delay issue (system updates at h+00,
h+20, h+40)
The direct feed to/from CNS would enable us to obtain up-to-date NOTAM
information with virtually no delay.
To date, NAATS has expressed two (2) initial
items required to facilitate this plan:
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A method requiring only one input of flight
plan information (i.e. M1FC FP mask, VM <locid> NO) to receive applicable site
or route-specific NOTAMs on the additional display. An additional input device
(i.e. keyboard, mouse, touch-screen) would operate the additional functions of
the informational display system.
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Only one (1) additional piece of �glass� shall
be incorporated into the workstation. In addition to the informational display
system, the SUAISE system would also be housed within the single display. The
type of display (i.e. Windows-type/single display, Wide-screen/dual display)
is extremely important, since this platform will likely house other future
add-ons that the AFSS World deems needed.
While the idea of an informational display system
is nothing new, the level of importance given to the concept has certainly been
elevated, thus allowing traditional channels to be bypassed, in effect
�fast-tracking� this project for the AFSS work environment. Your Board of
Directors will be looking for your input and support to determine what is
necessary to facilitate a plan of improvement for our Flight Service Stations.
NAATS ATP Liaison Report
Part II:
While technological limitations are certainly an
issue, the basic textual structure and accountability of a NOTAM also weighs in
heavily when measuring the impact to both internal and external users.
First, let me share with you what I�ve learned
from conversation shared with the USNOF personnel. It appears that, through no
fault of their own, the benefit of knowledge and experience formally used by
these employees when formatting NOTAMs has been cast aside by their superiors,
favoring haste in the issuance over accuracy. Oftentimes, the text of a given
NOTAM has been developed outside of the USNOF, and the direction given is to
issue it verbatim. I know each of you has dealt on some level with the effects
of this method during the course of a briefing workday.
To address some of the problems with this, ATA-1
Sabra Kaulia has brought in some �field expertise� to help her office out with
the initial �wording� of new FDC-scope TFR NOTAMs. Additionally, she expressed
the desire to have NAATS included in this initial NOTAM development, so that
some of the clarification issues might be addressed prior to �hitting the
street�. It is my hope that the USNOF will once again be allowed to assist in
their role to properly format the information given. These efforts combined
should assist in alleviating some of the impact issues that have surfaced around
this matter.
Additionally, the FSOSC is still being fine-tuned
(see Headquarters Update 7 & 7A). With this in place, �real-time� questions
should be able to be addressed, further assisting the field with timely
attention.
While these steps may not �Eliminate Global
Hunger�, they do indicate a positive trend by the Agency in focusing attention
on the Flight Service Option.
#10, November
29th, 2001
S.1447
Aviation and Transportation Security Act (Became P.L. 107-71)
SEC. 134. SENSE OF CONGRESS ON CERTAIN AVIATION MATTERS.
(a) FLIGHT SERVICE STATION EMPLOYEES- It is the sense of Congress that the
Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration should continue
negotiating in good faith with flight service station employees of the
Administration with a goal of reaching agreement on a contract as soon as
possible.
S. 1447 became Public Law 107-71, including the
above, when President Bush signed it on November 19.
I saw Chairman Young and two of his special
assistants this afternoon and expressed our gratitude for the above language. I
also indicated our concern that, given their track record, the FAA would not
negotiate in good faith. Their response was that Chairman Young was personally
interested in this matter and that he will be highly irritated if this language
doesn�t change the FAA�s posture. I told them of my scheduled meeting with
Administrator Garvey and they asked that I keep them informed of our progress or
lack thereof. The Chairman had to leave for a vote but I stayed and talked with
his assistants about possible future scenarios. They indicated that we could
count on them for support.
Administrator Garvey had to reschedule our
meeting for tomorrow with a new date of December 17. When I meet with her I will
ask her how she proposes to proceed with the pay impasse and how she intends to
comply with the language in P.L. 107-71.
NAATS Chief Negotiator Bill Dolan is working out
the specifics of the FSOSC. Latest indications are that it will probably start
around the middle of January. If FAA management determines they must start prior
to that time we�ll provide what operational support we can from here until we
can finish coordination.
We continue to hear buyout rumors from the field.
No current buyout legislation includes DOT and the FAA has proposed nothing.
A reminder that the
[email protected] account is being closed out. If you want to email me please use.
Wally Pike
The following is and update
from Jeff Barnes, NAATS OASIS National Representative.
11/29/01 - This week the OASIS Human Factors Team
is meeting at RNO AFSS. We are giving demos to the management and controllers at
RNO for a couple hours each day and conducting our business during the rest of
our time. Our business this time consists of going over every identified problem
in the Independent Operational Test and Evaluation (IOT&E) report and all the
change requests that have been submitted to this point. Our purpose is to
establish a traceability for each of these problems, to ensure that all of them
have been addressed. This has been of benefit as we have found several of the
issues had fallen through the cracks and needed the attention of the team. This
has not surprised anyone on the team as we are talking about over 500 problems
here. The vast majority of them have already been fixed, or are being worked on
now but a few did get overlooked. This gives the Team the self-check it needs to
make sure it is covering all identified issues.
Next week the FAA will get its first look at the
Phase 1 ISD (In Service Decision) Software that will go into AND AFSS. Several
of us will be at Harris Corporation to take a quick (two days) look at the
software to see if we can find any problems that can be resolved before the
software is sent to the Tech Center for primary testing. This software will be
very thoroughly tested before going operational. Besides the initial assessment
next week, the Human Factors Team will test the software, a NOTE (NAS
Operational Test and Evaluation) test will take place at the Tech Center (The
NOTE Team is made up of controllers and supervisors from the original NOTE Test
Team that tested the original SEA software and supervisors and controllers from
AND AFSS), and a NOTE test will take place at AND AFSS where we will simulate
operational use as much as possible. After all that is done, as long as it is
satisfactory AND will go operational, at which time an IOT&E evaluation will
take place on the operational system.
In a couple weeks an assessment of OASIS will be
done by information gathered from this assessment will be given to the Human
Factors Team for use in making OASIS more suitable for Alaskan operations. The
Human Factors Team will be on hand at SEA at the assessment outbrief to get
first hand feedback from the Alaskan team. This will kick off our next meeting
at SEA AFSS that week.
After that meeting our activities will slow for
the Holidays, getting back up to speed after the first week of January.
#11, December
7th, 2001
As we wait for my meeting with the
Administrator on December 17, it is interesting to note the FLRA hearing
between the FAA and AFSCME. You will recall that the FAA and AFSCME
negotiators reached tentative agreement only to have the Administrator refuse
to sign due to OMB objections. AFSCME understandably filed a ULP against the
FAA. The FLRA General Counsel agreed with AFSCME and both sides have been
waiting for the hearing this week.
The FAA made a settlement offer to AFSCME this week. As you probably guessed
it�s the 5.5% over 5 years deal. AFSCME countered with 5.5% over 3 years and a
$2,000 signing bonus for all of their bargaining unit members. The FAA refused
so they�re proceeding before the administrative law judge now. We�ll keep you
briefed on the developments.
I�ve yet to have anyone in the FAA explain to me what�s so magical about this
5.5% over 5-year ceiling. The only factual information we have is that this
became the standard when PASS agreed to it on behalf of the technicians they
represent. The only exception has been the series 2152�s in FAA HQ represented
by AFSCME and, of course, the FAA reneged on that one.
We�re continuing to meet with congressional members and their staff but
basically everything is on hold until my meeting with the Administrator. I�m
also talking with other senior FAA managers in the interim but obviously the
big meeting is on the 17th.
During the next two weeks we will be publishing and mailing the holiday
edition of the NAATS Bulletin (glossy) to all members. I�ve requested that the
Chief Negotiator, GA Summit Representative and all liaisons/tech reps have
articles included. We will also have articles from NM Regional Director Don
McLennan and EA Regional Director Donna Holmes.
Wally Pike
The following is from Acting Administrator Ward Simpson: �All RegCos/FacReps
are being mailed 2002 day planners, NAATS lanyards and ID holders. They are to
please distribute them to the members of their facilities.�
#12, December 14th, 2001
It turns out that there will be a number of
things that I will talk with the Administrator about Monday in addition to the
pay impasse. Earlier this year the DOT OIG issued a report recommending
consolidation of a number of our AFSSs. The report is based on the work of the
old AFSS architecture workgroup findings, which we successfully discredited. Now
the OIG suggests that somehow this would save $300 million a year and make the
agency more efficient. Fortunately both ATS and Air Traffic have disagreed with
this report but OMB has endorsed it and asked the FAA to begin implementation.
Discussions with several senior FAA managers
have indicated that the FAA will disagree with OMB based on both operational and
technological grounds. Operationally our bargaining unit members have proven
their essential worth to the Air Traffic system and any objective analysis
substantiates this. Technologically AFSS consolidation isn�t possible because of
voice switch constraints (see NAATS Voice Switch Tech Rep Steve Glowacki�s
report in the next edition of the NAATS Bulletin which goes to the printers next
week). Nevertheless I feel it�s critical to get the Administrator�s position and
her response to OMB.
Another agenda item is the recognition for our
bargaining unit�s efforts since September 11. In discussions with AT-2, Air
Traffic�s feeling is, given the mood of the country and the current crises, now
is not the time to discuss awards. Air Traffic also states that a number of
controllers don�t want awards for doing what they feel is their job. Air Traffic
fully acknowledges the bargaining unit�s efforts and accomplishments but they
think it would be better to address this sometime after the first of the year.
Although we reassure Air Traffic that our bargaining unit will continue to do
their job as they always have, our position is that further delay creates
problems for two reasons:
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Our bargaining unit already feels
undervalued because of the continuing impasse on pay,
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Some regions have already given time off
awards while others are waiting for further national guidance.
Therefore we disagree with Air Traffic on this
and I�ll see what the Administrator�s position is on recognition.
The major item for the meeting is, of course,
the discussion on how to break the pay impasse. Clearly Chairman Young and his
staff feel the FAA should negotiate in good faith and I�m to report back to them
on the results of this meeting. I�m prepared to discuss several options to break
this logjam including neutral third party hearings. I have a number of follow-up
meetings relating to this next week so I plan to wait until the smoke clears and
send out an update with all the details toward the end of the week.
I received some questions regarding the 4.6%
general increase next month. Our bargaining unit will continue to receive these
government-wide increases until we reach final agreement on pay.
Wally Pike
#13, December
17th, 2001
The following are the results
of my meeting this afternoon with the Administrator, ATS-1 Steve Brown and ALR-1
Ray Thoman.
We agreed that recognition for
your efforts since September 11 is deserved and should not be delayed. We�ll
begin the coordination to adopt the ATX recommendations that NAATS ATX Liaison
Ron Maisel will brief you on in the NAATS Bulletin.
The decision has not yet been
made on how the Administrator will respond to the OMB recommendation on
consolidation but there was general acknowledgement that the technology isn�t
there now. I also emphasized the operational reasons we shouldn�t consolidate
and, again, there was general agreement. It was acknowledged that consolidation
is a continuing discussion and has been for the past 20 years. NAATS
Headquarters will get a copy of the architecture studies and any decisions will
be coordinated with NAATS. My feeling is that there isn�t a real danger in
consolidation for us right now.
The discussion on pay was
positive. I emphasized the fact that our membership feels undervalued and under
appreciated and that the logjam needs to be broken as soon as possible. We
talked about the Aviation Security Law language and then talked about ways to
resolve the impasse, including arbitration before a neutral third party. They
were receptive to the discussion and said they would get back to me NLT the week
of January 7, or sooner if their coordination is accomplished, with their
decision.
In the interim we agreed to
convene a small team (3 members each) to work out all the details except
the pay itself. This will probably begin about the middle of January.
Wally Pike
#14, December 21st, 2001
Congress is on holiday recess
so nothing happening there right now. As soon as they return I�ll coordinate
with Chairman Young and his staff regarding the meeting I had on pay with
Administrator Garvey.
I met with AT-1 Bill Peacock to
discuss the commitment Administrator Garvey made on recognition for your efforts
since September 11. He again indicated that he felt recognition was warranted
and that we would begin to work this issue through shortly after the holidays.
We are aware that a number of the regions have already given time-off awards and
there is a concern that there needs to be consistency.
Later I attended a meeting with
AT-2 Jeff Griffith, NAATS Chief Negotiator Bill Dolan and ATP Liaison Scott
Malon. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the latest NOTAM fiasco, why it
happened and what can be done to ensure it doesn�t happen again. Bill will be
briefing you on the details of this meeting but I wanted you to know that both
he and Scott did a good job of expressing our continuing frustration with this
process.
Earlier this week I visited COU
AFSS and later met with CE Regional Director Mike Terry, CE Regional Coordinator
Jerry VanVacter and the membership. Present from COU AFSS were Roger Jaeger (who
provided excellent meeting space), Dave Dearnley, Pam Anderson, Diane Carter,
Don Jacobson, Kati Jennings, Phil Knoppe, Wayne Wansing and Jim Wilkerson and
Facrep Chuck Basye. Also attending were Carl Taylor OLU FacRep, Sam Walley STL
FacRep, and Jim Perkins FOD FacRep. I thoroughly enjoyed the exchange of
information with the members and my commitment is do more of this next year. One
of the action items I took was to get FAA Human Resources to provide a
definitive, written interpretation of the mandatory age 56-retirement issue.
Thanks to all for their invitation.
Another continuing frustration
for me has been the email address issue. This week I received 13 email messages
that had somehow been lost since last August. Please note �if I owe you an email
response (including any message boards) it probably means that I have never
received your message. If you want to ensure that I receive your email please
address it to
. This is the only one that always works.
Happy Holidays to all,
Wally Pike
#14a, December 22, 2001
From: Bill Dolan
Subject: Meeting with
AAT-2 regarding the latest NOTAM fiasco.
As Wally mentioned in his
12/20 update, we met with AT-2 Jeff Griffith to express our displeasure (not
exactly the words I used) with the way this latest round of NOTAM information
was leaked to the alphabet groups before we had it at the facilities. We began
with NAATS ATP Liaison Scott Malon briefing on the problems with the NOTAM
itself and covered the following issues:
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NAATS was not involved at
all in the planning of the reissued NOTAM as previously committed to by Air
Traffic.
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Previously identified
problems identified as critical to the AFSS operations were not addressed.
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The commitment to use
field expertise when writing/issuing NOTAMS was not adhered to.
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Waivers were not
incorporated into the reissued NOTAMS.
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Being the �front line� in
communications with the pilot community, the AFSS Controllers field the impact
of poorly executed NOTAMs.
I went on to state that
AOPA and other user groups receiving this information prior to the field
facilities is unacceptable. We are tired of being made the fool. We need to
have the information before any other releases are made.
The solution we came up
with and to which AT-2 committed is this. No NOTAMS will be signed out for
distribution until NAATS has signed off on them. NAATS will not sign off until
the information has been reviewed by NAATS and any corrections needed are
made. The field facilities will receive a draft copy of the finished product
prior to the NOTAM office putting the NOTAM into the system. Once the NOTAM is
in the system the field will receive the NOTAM number that will make the draft
official. The user groups will not receive the NOTAM info until it has been
input into the system and it has a NOTAM number. ATA-1 has been informed of
this agreement.
The final piece of this is that the proof is in the
follow through by Air Traffic. This process should only be necessary until the
FSOSC is in place and operating. This should be accomplished within a few days
of our people arriving in DC to begin working the issues full-time.
#15, January 4, 2002
Congress is in recess until
January 22. Once they return we�ll continue to work with them on our pay and
other issues.
Next week I will be in DEN,
SEA and BOI to meet with the members and discuss issues. I�ve received
confirmation that I will be informed of Administrator Garvey�s decision
regarding the advisory arbitration hearing proposal on the pay impasse next week
as well. Our hope is that she will agree with NAATS and allow a neutral third
party hear the dispute and render an opinion. NAATS and Chairman Young are in
agreement that this is a viable first step toward resolution.
There have been too many
members to list that have helped on the pay dispute during the last two years. I
particularly want to thank Debbie Shea, ISP FacRep and Marc Lackman, AK Regional
Coordinator, for their continued efforts.
I have meetings this month
with both ATS-1 Steve Brown and AT-1 Bill Peacock to coordinate the ATX
recognition (time off award) directions to the regions for your efforts since
September 11. Questions regarding these parameters should be directed to NAATS
ATX Liaison Ron Maisel at 202-267-8028.
The initial group for the
Flight Service Operational Support Center (FSOSC) will report January 14. There
will be some training involved and it will probably be January 28 before they go
fully operational. Again, the purpose of this group is to resolve NOTAM/TFR
questions and problems from the field. Please direct questions on FSOSC
arrangements to NAATS ATP Liaison Scott Malon at 202-267-9166.
The NAATS BOD Business
Meeting will be held the week of January 14. If you have any items for the
agenda please contact your Regional Director. A summary of the meeting will be
distributed to the membership within the time parameters (basically 8 days)
adopted at the last BOD meeting.
When I listed the attendees
at the COU membership meeting last month I inadvertently left out Della Blakley
and Ron Leicht. My apologies.
Wally Pike
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