NAATS Board of Directors Meeting
Hampton Inn
1616 King Street
Alexandria, VA
July 16, 2002-July 18, 2002
DAY ONE -- July 16, 2002
9:00 am - Call to order
Mr. Pike spoke on the pay and work rules- a joint NAATS/FAA letter to FMCS was
signed this week, the official letter will be signed on Friday with ALR-1. Copy
of preliminary letter distributed to Directors. Updates will go out to
membership after official letter is signed (possibly Friday), Mr. Dibble to
place on our web site.
Congressional activity has tapered off a little with efforts on the prep for pay
hearing and A76. Senator Hollings is possibly working on language surrounding on
A-76 (air traffic is inherently governmental) but no firm commitment yet.
Senior FAA relations-With the upcoming changes to AOA and ADA-1 there is little
opportunity for meaningful meetings now. ADA-1 is keeping in touch with Union
Presidents surrounding the furlough piece.
External Union Relations-Talked to AFSCME, PASS, and NATCA presidents, all
willing to work together through the A-76 process. External union relations are
on a high note right now.
Liaison Recommendations-Resumes of interested parties distributed to BOD.
ATX- Mr. Pike recommended Beth Gerrits of AOO. BOD approved.
FTI- Mr. Pike recommended Linda Sterling of JBR. BOD approved. Changeover
effective 9/1/02.
NAATS Administrator- Mr. Pike recommended Kate Breen of BDR. Recommendation
failed BOD vote, tabled to solicit membership for other candidates as soon as
possible with proposed decision date of Labor Day.
Treasurer- Mr. Pike recommended Marc Lackman, FAI AFSS. Discussion around
resumes submitted for the position (5). BOD approved. Changeover effective with
October BOD meeting 2002.
ATX Liaison Report (Ron Maisel)
Mr. Maisel has been gathering information for the FMCS hearing. Big news is the
furlough.. Two people short at the latest class at the academy, tried to get
spots back filled, but unable. Currently 61 developmentals in the system.
Regions are managing to the numbers including staff/management, as staff and
management attrite they are not supposed to be refilling those spots. The new
hires should be going into Bargaining Unit, not management. Familiarization
Training Flights-Still just Military and Private Fam flights can be taken. Still
a security issue, no movement on commercial flights. Work from the Traffic Count
workgroup is still sitting in ATX.
Administrator's Report
Mr. Simpson had a personal emergency and will provide the BOD with a written
report.
OASIS Report
OASIS In Service Decision (ISD) was approved by ATS-1 Steve Brown in June. This
will install OASIS to at least sight 25 (BDR AFSS). The agency was starting to
talk to Harris directly on some issues without Human Factors Team signing off on
all issues. Mr. Barne talked with the agency and has the commitment from the
agency to stop going to Harris without his/Human Factors Team knowledge. Some
problems popping up with OASIS consoles that will need to be handled through I
and I. If the agency tries to change one facility (floor plans, number of
consoles, etc.) the union may want to re-open the MOU, do new sight surveys, and
open other issues that might be affected. Site surveys should have union (facrep)
input. The agency will go back to facilities that have already installed the
consoles and ask if anything needs to be changed. Mr. Barnes will work out how
the agency will do this. One idea was to get the facreps signature to show that
the agency actually got union involvement at the local level. Hopefully this
will head off the agency just asking the managers of facilities with consoles
already installed if there are any problems. Harris/Mr. Barnes will demo OASIS
to AOPA President in the near future. OASIS Training (Ms. Homes)-NAATS will need
to solicit new members for alternate positions for the OASIS CADRE trainers.
Individuals need to have OASIS experience.
Chief Negotiators Report
Mr. Dolan reported:
MOUs-The only new MOU signed was the VFR Waypoints MOU.
Staffing- Mr. Dolan will talk to AT-1 about the empty slots at the academy.
Liaisons- Mr. Perkins will take ARS and Mr. Finnegan will take ARU.
QA Order-A new QA order that the agency is trying to get out quickly. Mr. Dolan
will develop an MOU surrounding union involvement in any OE/OD's.
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HRPM policy on Military leave |
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FAAO 1400.10 (EEO Mediation Program) |
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Juneau Alert Wind System (JAWS) |
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OASIS issues |
AWS-Credit hours issue out of Lansing AFSS. Will
have to look at mid-term bargaining after contract is ratified.
CRU-X - NAATS has only negotiated on the Sign in/out feature only. There should
be further negotiations on the other platforms soon.
Updates- Mr. Dolan will update matrix bi-weekly.
Open Topics
Staffing and A76 are being discussed with Chairman Don Young and his staff. More
coordination will occur this week.
Office Administrator Duties
Put out a job description/bid out for the office administrator with a close date
and make the selection within 30 days of posting bid. Labor Day is target date
for decision.
Replacing Appointed Union Representatives
BOD will continue to look at all appointed representatives that have been on a
project for an extended period of time (3 years) to see if there is any interest
from the members to cover positions. A list will be developed and posted by the
BOD.
National Meeting
Mr. Jaffe requested that funding for the National Meeting should be set at an
acceptable limit to allow for additional food, beverages, and gifts for members.
Have the regions compete for the National Meeting, i.e., bring in pictures of
hotels, prices, attractions to present to the membership at the National Meeting
for vote at the April membership meeting.
VRA Hiring
Mr. Stafford discussed the fact that VRA's can be hired up to FG-11 depending on
experience, some are regions are hiring at FG-7 and FG-9. Mr. Stafford will
check with ATX to see about getting this clarified.
NATCA PCS/CIP MOUs
Mr. Stafford felt strongly that NAATS should be more aggressive in pursuing MOUs
that would benefit our members other than just equipment MOUs. BOD agreement.
Mr. Dolan will ask the ATX Liaison to research the NATCA MOUs for ideas on MOUs
regarding compensation.
Dental Plans, Inc.
The BOD discussed and approved providing this benefit to our membership.
Membership mailings will now be the next step.
OASIS Human Factors Team
The BOD discussed the changeover schedule for this team. Action deferred at this
time with the understanding that all appointed positions will be rotated to
maximize membership participation.
Public Relations Team (PRT)
Went to the AOPA open house in Frederick, MD and was received very well. Press
releases, we need to be more timely. Mr. Dibble is not getting any response from
membership about issues that happen locally. If an issue pops up, let him or
president know and get the press release to the BOD, give the BOD 24 hours to
respond/OK the release then send the release out. The head of PRT will be only
be funded to attend the BOD meetings when requested by the BOD.
2003 Facrep Training on New Contract
Mr. Jaffe and Mr. Comisky discussed the possibility of doing the training in
February of 2003, it will be discussed again at the October BOD meeting pending
completion and ratification of the contract.
October BOD Meeting Location
The Clarion located in Ft Worth, TX, Monday 10/07-Wednesday 10/09 Mr. Jaffe will
give the hotel the master list. Mr. Jaffe will also check to see if he can shift
the dates of the meeting from Tuesday-Thursday to Monday-Wednesday.
Attendance by Representatives at Board Meetings
Liaisons and representatives will be advised no less than 4 weeks in advance of
the upcoming BOD meeting if they are required to attend that BOD meeting
FAA First Federal Credit Union
Discussion regarding using FAA First Credit Union as the official NAATS credit
union to provide additional membership benefits. A motion was made, discussed
and approved designation FAA First for this purpose.
DAY TWO -- July 17, 2002
9:00 am - 11:20 am Contract Team Meeting.
OSHKOSH Fly-In
Motion: Each region will nominate by end of April BOD meeting their nominee to
attend Oshkosh or waive their right to name a nominee. A reminder will be given
by the Great Lakes Regional Director at the January BOD meeting. In
Favor-Unanimously approved.
A-76 Vendor Presentation
Two contractors briefed the BOD on the A76 process.
A-76 presentation ATP/Grant Thornton
The feasibility study has just been completed by Grant Thornton, Inc and the FAA
is reviewing it to see if they are going to go through with the A-76 study. Some
of the AFSS functions were considered inherently governmental, we don't know
which ones yet. FAA management is reviewing the study and will get it to us as
soon as it is released. There is an appeals process that has a 30 day window
after the report is published. NAATS will have no input on the Business Case
Analysis, but will have input on the Performance Work Statement (PWS). Any
differences of opinion would be settled by management. The Mission cannot be
compromised. While giving input to the PWS it would be important to have our
input into Section C1, which talks to personnel certifications. The independent
review could/would be done by the FAA just a different line of business. Alaska
is exempt from this study.
A-76 Discussion after briefings
The agency will pay travel and per diem for the NAATS representative to start
work on the A-76 communications group. The President recommended Kate Breen for
this purpose and the BOD approved.
Voice Switch Briefing
Mr. Glowacki discussed the voice switch system. They are looking for 3 key sites
to test functionality, Mr. Glowacki recommended 3 sites (PRC, CDC, and DEN). The
BOD concurs with those recommendations.
Schedule-OT&E ACY Tech Center conducted Nov. 2003 through Apr. 2004.
Key site installations #1-9/03 #2-10/03 #3-11/03
Key site IOT&E conducted July/Aug 2004
Vendor Selection-Northrop Grumman.
Meeting Process
Mr. McLennan would like the BOD to see everyone put their phones on vibrate and
side-bar discussions held to a minimum. Mr. Pike asks that sidebar discussions
be held to a minimum. General agreement by the BOD on both.
DAY THREE - July 18, 2002
NAATS Bank Accounts
A list of banks NAATS is currently using and the amount of money deposited at
each one was provided to the BOD.
BOD Meeting for October
Mr. Jaffe: The dates for the October BOD meeting in FT. Worth, TX have been
amended to October 7-9,2002(Mon-Thrs).
Liaison Reports
(ATP) Mr. Malon advised the OASIS MOU had a 90 day deployment time frame
for SUA/ISE which was 7/11/02, ATP is now looking for a contractor to get the
equipment out. Issues between software providers, we are trying to work with
Crown on band width.
Mr. Malon briefed the BOD on several topics, including the NSTS (NOTAM Short
Term Solution), ADDS(Aviation Digital Data Service).
Mr. Hoover would like to see the reports from the liaisons bi-weekly, maybe make
up a new form to distribute to directors that would reflect what/who liaisons
talked to daily.
Motion: Made by Mr. Hoover and Seconded by Mr. McLennan.
I move that the liaisons provide the following information to the BOD:
Continue with the policy of the bi-weekly report,
one of which will be an article in the NAATS Newsletter.
Also a spreadsheet or list of projects assigned to their departments.
All in favor-unanimous 9-0
ARS/ARU
Mr. Perkins provided a list of on going programs. CCFP now being issued every
two hours, ERIDS enroute isn't happy with it, they are now looking at ACE-IDS. A
lot of the programs are being transitioned into the ATB (Air Traffic Terminal
Business Unit). Mr. Perkins also distributed a list of possible IDS content. He
asked the BOD to get some input on other items that bargaining unit members
might like to see in the IDS. Mr. Perkins will distribute the list in soft copy
to the Directors and would like responses for a meeting July 30th. NWS is
looking at going to graphical area forecast like Canada. Mr. Perkins will
forward the website to the BOD.
There probably will be a full-time NAATS rep for ACE-IDS.
FSOSC
Mr. DeGrazio and Ms. Rowe briefed the BOD:
Jeppsen will have a prototype to the FSOSC folks by the middle of August, the
Jeppsen rep will hopefully get it out sooner. There will be a month of Beta
testing and then out to the field. Problem is no hardware in the field. The
office for FSOSC will be on the 10th floor in the old situation room, there will
be two seats, but will still take another 3 months to finish the office.
Message Numbering/Tracking System
Mr. Hoover discussed recommended internal messaging protocol.
Availability of Participants
Mr. Pike would like to see consideration of this when the Directors suggest
participants. The Director will need to work through the division manager to get
people out.
Newsletter publication, responsibility, and timeliness
Mr. Hoover would like to see the newsletter revamped to include more pertinent
data. He would encourage the directors to look beyond the regional issues and
add articles to the newsletter. The timeliness needs to be looked at to get
newsletter out. Possibly bring the newsletter back into the National Office
(Office Administrator) to put out in a timely manner. Mr. Hoover will
demonstrate how the newsletter can be done at the next BOD meeting in October in
Ft. Worth.
National Training Issues and Funding
Mr. Hoover wants to look at how the national training is handled, it should be
directors only when coming out of national funds. If the director can't go the
farthest down the chain it should go is coordinator. Mr. Pike would like to see
training for people who are going to actually do national negotiating, if the
director can't go. No shows are a problem we lose money put out for training.
General BOD agreement.
ATPAC
Ms. Michael is taking over for Ms. Chay who worked on ATPAC for 8 years and did
a wonderful job representing NAATS issues. AT-1 spoke to the group and advised
them that if the hill doesn't make a decision about the budget within two weeks
it might be too late to stop it. One of the top 3 things he is going to discuss
with the newly appointed Administrator was staffing, but only staffing in towers
and centers not flight service because we don't need any staffing. Mr. Pike will
follow-up on AT-1 statement.
NAATS/NATCA/PASS Conference
Mr. Baker would like to push for an active group for all three unions to work
together. The hill would also like to see the unions work together. Mr. Pike
will check with the other union presidents to see about a schedule for working
together.
National Goals/Vision Statement
Mr. Hoover believes we should maintain a list of people who work and have worked
on workgroups/liaisons/tech reps to know what someone's strengths are for short
turn around detail or workgroup. Mr. Pike agrees. A database needs to be
developed. Mr. Hoover will start to work on it.
Constitutional Changes That Impact Contract Language
Mr. Hoover would like to go over the constitutional changes before the contract
gets printed to make sure all of our language is the same, i.e., officers of the
union. Ms. Holmes would like to take a look at the constitution in the next few
weeks to start the process. Make the changes needed before the agency prints the
contract possibly in January of 2003.
Vice-President's Position
Mr. Baker would like to see a position to backup the President to attend
meetings that maybe the President couldn't attend. Much discussion regarding the
need for a VP. There will be a follow-up in a few weeks to give everyone a
chance to think about it. The general feeling is the position should be elected
and the functionality needs to be assessed.
Member Relief Fund
Mr. Jaffe advised that a bargaining unit member from CXO had a serious car
accident. Mr. Jaffe would like to see if there were any ideas to start a member
relief fund for members who run into trouble. Possibly getting a group insurance
deal for disability insurance as compared to the life insurance we currently pay
for. Mr. Pike will check into the cost.
Financial Investment
Mr. Hoover suggested that we explore the feasibility of getting new office space
in the Alexandria area. Mr. Pike will follow-up and report back to the BOD in
October.
FSDPS Transition Plan
The Central Region FSDPS folks have received letters from ATP-1 about the
transition plan, FAA headquarters is starting to look at where they are going to
place people. There is a web site for the FSDPS transition. Mr. Terry would like
to see a copy of letters sent out to other regions. Mr. O'Connell will send Mr.
Terry the letter electronically.
Press Release
After the meetings yesterday surrounding the A-76 Study NAATS should try to get
a letter out ASAP to as many folks as we can. Mr. Dibble will be contacted to
get something out ASAP.
Furlough Update
Mr. Dolan advised that the house/Senate have agreed on a compromise on the
supplemental budget, the President has not signed it yet. The FAA would not get
all the money they asked for, but it should be enough to cover payroll. If the
bill does not get signed by 8/6/02 all details will end both union and
management. AT-1 will call Mr. Pike by mid next week.
Meeting Adjourned.
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